the economy is the same and have swapped a secular dictatorship for another one. i spoke to a professor of diplomacy at harvard, and he said that who would have predicted two years ago egypt would still have a strong work relationship with the u.s., would have stood by the camp david peace accord so perhaps there's room for optimism. >> there is, i think, a ray of hope this keystone country, this very important country in the middle of the arab world, might be able to move forward, hasp in a very problematic way but not terribly destabilizing. >> listen to the caution in that as well. not tremendously destabilizing for the region. nobody knows the future. >> shepard: we don't have much strategy and the rest of the region is a disaster. >> of course, it is not just egypt we're concerned about right now. the events recently, the taking of hostages at the gas facility in al jeer a, set alarm bells ringing about the work of islamic extremists, and you look right across the region, libya egypt, tune knee should, algeria, and mali. and nicholas burns again said this could go on for lang time.